Justice is an archetype or ideal to which human beings sometimes strive. The human desire for justice is counterbalanced by other things, such as greed, selfishness, the wish for special privileges for ones own, the temptation to misuse power for ones own purposes. But even within the blackest soul, there is recognition of what the concept of justice is about. As we decipher what the nature of justice is with philosopher’s Glaucon and Socrates who have different understandings of what justice is to us. Where Cicero, characterize the natures of justice, to complete a true understanding on what nature is it to be just. Glaucon explain that justice should belong to the most humble man, how shouldn’t expect returns from doing justice and what comes out of it. He states the belief of a man who has a moral sense against his own well-being are the one who have natural nature of perusing good. He believes that justice is better than injustice; even when his brother, Adeimantus, went completely against what he believe in, as he explained that if a man were to be unjust, he would still be able to live a better life than the man who is just. Where Glaucon argues that a just man would follow an unjust man out of the desire to be good and that is natural nature of the law, because if a man was completely unjust, he would need to become the most perfect injustice since man would have the power to set himself right if any unjust opportunities occur. He uses the ancestor of Gyges, a Lydian, how use to serve the King as a shepherd toiling man, as this man was given power as he used that power to serve an unjust act of sleeping with the Kings wife, and setting up the Kings, along with his wife’s, death, as he ruled after. However, with Glaucon’s argument, this man wasn’t completely unjust since the time he ruled, he provided for his friends and family. To be unjust and just has both profitability, however with a just act, they no long need to suffer from the view of selfishness and blame. And this is the overall of what is best doing injustice without paying the penalty and a man who suffers injustice without avenging one self. Socrates brings up an interesting point about being simply thirsty, as he explains what type of thirst it could be, as heat can cause someone to desire something cold, but yet, the cold can make one desire something hot, however, it is the desire of the person in the end who choses the type of temperature to quench that thirst. This is what Socrates believes how the nature and value of justice is, as it take ourselves to determine what actions obtain justice and injustice. Looking into the news, school shootings have been occurring consistently over the years, where many trials are still in progress. Why has the progression taken so long? Relating back to Socrates, a student who killed another is presumed to be unjust, but if the dead student was a bullying the gunmen for many years, does it make it just? It was the desire of what justice meant to them, where the gunman believed he killed someone for the justification of himself, as the mourning parents justice to see the gunman have life in jail. Glaucon find Socarates conclusion to be concerning because if our justice system was based off desire, we would all be living confused and corrupted life of what justice means in our life system. It also goes completely against Glaucon’s perception of justice, where desire, if completely selfish, can create man to be completely unjust under his belief on the justice